of nrg energy, the new jersey-based utility. now, like other c.e.o.s, he is concerned about getting a solution. earlier today, i asked him, can it be done in time? >> can it be done in the lame-duck session before the january 1 cliff, i don't think so. but i think everyone is looking for a sign of good faith, (a) that they're working together in a constructive way, and (b) that, as most people are saying, put a down payment on dealing with the issue, and then come up with a credible plan to sell it over the next several months. >> susie: david, as you know, many c.e.o.s are going to be meeting with president obama tomorrow at the white house. what would you like to see come out of that meeting? >> the business community generally likes simpson bowls, and i think there was some disappointmt obama administration did not embrace it fully. i think what the business community would like to hear from president obama is sim bowls on testosterone. they want to hear the word "simpson bowls" because that provides a better blueprint than a